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我們 udn 可愛的、忙碌的某位格友提供維基百科正在編輯中的「2013年菲律賓公務船攻擊台灣漁船事件」(2013 Kuang Ta Hsing No.28 incidentFrom Wikipedia) 條目英文版, 需要大家增補.

它簡直像是菲律賓人寫的.

昨晚, 台灣政論節目提出菲律賓在狂打國際宣傳, 扭曲事實, 製造不實的英文版本, 菲律賓本來就講英語, 佔很大的便宜.

真巧, 這位格友適時提出下開內容的修撰.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Kuang_Ta_Hsing_No.28_incident#Public_reaction_in_TaiwanFile:Bullet Trajectory of Guangdaxing No.28 (Top view).png

期望大家共襄盛舉, 投入編輯, 維基英文條目不公正!  俺修正文字, 只供參考, 不採納沒關係, 盡心而已.     

第一段: The 2013 Kuang Ta Hsing No.28 Incident refers to the 2013-05-09 random shooting on high seas from a Philippine Coast Guard vessel MCS-3001 to a Taiwanese fishing boat Kuang Ta Hsing No.28 (廣大興28號), resulting in the death of one Kuang Ta Hsing crew member Hung Shih-cheng (洪石成).  This incident occurred in waters north of the Philippine archipelago, where the economic zones of the Philippines and Taiwan -- extending 200 nautical miles from shore -- overlap.  The site was 43 nautical miles east of Balintang Island according to the Philippine Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources[2] and 170 nautical miles south of Taiwan according to Taiwan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, both well within the 200-nm range prescribed by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.[3]   At this point, the Taiwanese government accuses MCS-3001 of random and unlawful shooting while its Philippine counterpart alleges self-defense.

Incident   On 9 May 2013, Taiwanese fishing boat Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28 (廣大興28號) [按: 船名如人名, 不必搞拼音] was operating 43 nautical miles east of Balintang Island according to the Philippine Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources[2] and 170 nautical miles south of Taiwan according to Taiwan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, both well within the 200-nm range prescribed by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.[3] about 164 nautical miles southeast of Cape Eluanbi, Taiwan.[4]   Kuang Ta Hsing 28's captain was Hung Yu-chih (洪育智), and crew members were Captain's father Hung Shih-cheng (洪石成), brother-in-law, and one Indonesian national.

The Filipino Maritime Control Surveillance 3001 (MCS-3001), a 35-meter vessel jointly manned by the Philippine Coast Guard and Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources personnel, detected two fishing boats Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28 at 43 nautical miles east of Balintang Island,[5][6]  [註5與註6均菲報報導, 立場偏頗, 必須抵死反對, 怎可擺在事件敘述] a disputed area between Taiwan and the Philippines. The Philippine coast guards opened fired at the 15-ton fishing boat during a 50-minute chase into Taiwanese waters, which ended around 10:00 a.m. 59 bullet holes (45 of which were entry holes) were found and identified as coming from a semi-automatic weapon.  Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28 suffered comprehensive damage, including engine failure[7], with 65-year-old Hung Shih-cheng shot in the back of his head and died about half an hour after the Filipino attack.  The stricken fishing boat was rescued by The Coast Guard Administration of Taiwan and towed home.   while the main deck experienced severe and concentrated attack, according to the distribution of the shooting holes.[8]

The Coast Guard Administration of Taiwa dispatched the 2,000-ton ROCCGC Tainan (CG-126) to rescue of the stricken vessel and escort it back to its home port in Taiwan. Two Taiwanese fishing vessels assisted in the effort to tow the Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28 back to Taiwan under the escort of the CGA. The incident led to the death Taiwanese national Hung Shih-cheng (洪石成), who was 65.  [按: 怎麼有人寫廢話呢]

Stalemate  Taiwan's president Ma Ying-jeou demanded within 72 hours: (1) government to government apology (2) compensations to Hung Family (3) joint investigation (4) revision of Tai-Filipino Fishery Agreement. 

The Philippine President Benigno Aquino III dispatched on 15 May 2013 his personal representative Amadeo R. Perez, Chairman of Manila Economic and Cultural Office, to Taipei, Taiwan, delivering (1) people to people apology but defining the Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28 Incident as an unfortunate accident (2) not compensations but donations from the Philippine people to Hung family (3) cooperation on a Taiwan-Filipino joint investigation (4) agreement to convene on a new bi-lateral fishery agreement. 

to, but make an unofficial apology for the death of the Taiwanese fisherman on , dispatching the as his personal representative.[9] However, President Ma Ying-jeou Taipei rejected Manila's (1) & (2) offers [9] [10], followed by a 2013-5-16 Military Drill on the waters where the Shooting Incident occurred, and Manila retaliated by refusing to receive the apology since it called the shooting "unfortunate" and "unintentional",[10], insisting that Manila offers a formal apology and just compensation.[9] The Philippines publicly welcomed a joint investigation with Taiwanese delegation who came to the Philippines on 2013-5-17 to embark on joint investigation into the Incident. [11] [12]arrieved on the incident in the first place,[11] but later denied that it had ever made such an offer and rejected the joint investigation when the Taiwanese investigators arrived in Manila.[12] Justice Secretary Leila de Lima stated that she would allow Taiwan to conduct an investigation parallel to that being conducted by the National Bureau of Investigation. 

Claims and investigations 

Taiwan The victim's son, Hung Yu-chih (洪育智), rejected the PCG's claim because Kuang Ta Hsing 28 is a small fishing boat (15 tons) with a much lower speed compared to the PCG vessel (90 tons). He said the immediate reaction was to flee when the fishing boat encountered an armed Filipino vessel and the allegation that the fishing boat tried to ram the PCG vessel is self-serving and baseless.[13]  [按: 洪育智是當事人, 沒必要先引他的話, 並設為一段, 不妥]

Taiwan    Taiwan's Ministry of Justice published an investigation report on May 15 [14], indicating that 45 bullets [按: 前已說59發, 須一致] hit the boat Kuang Ta Hsing No. was exposed to a raking fire from the Filipino MCS-3001 judged by the spreading of bullet holes and comprehenisve damage to the hull of the boat, and the boat suffered no collison damage whatsoever which shows Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28 on the day of the shooting was trying to flee from the Filipino MCS-3001 rather than ramming into this Filipino official vessel [15].   Futhermore, according to the eye-witness Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28's captain Hung Yu Chih (洪育智), Kung Ta Hsing weighed only 15 tons vs. the MCS-3001's 90 tons, that only a fool would ram such an armed PCG official vessel, and the only thought at the time was to try by all means to flee from the scene [13]. 

no signs of collision on the boat were found, refuting the previous Philippine's claim of Taiwanese boat rammed first. [15] Taiwan's MOJ report further states that the boat took 59 bullet holes in total with at least one under the waterline and four about the cabin where the crews were hiding, inferring that the PCG MCS-3001 set out the raking fire at a Taiwanese unarmed fishing boat with total disregard for human lives on board.  According to the voyage data recorder, the strafing occurred at 19°59'47.27"N and 122°55'41.37"W, which was not inside Philippines' territorial waters, but in the Shared EEZ.

Philippines   On May 10, Philippine Coast Guard Commandant Rear Admiral Rodolfo Isorena claimed that the Taiwanese fishing boat together with another vessel were halted by the crew of MCS-3001 for an on-board inspection. The smaller of the two Taiwanese fishing boats did not respond to the warning and tried to ram the Philippine Coast Guard vessel. The commanding officer of MCS-3001 then gave the order to open fire at Guang Ta Hsin-28 to disable its engine. Two unidentified vessels then arrived in the area, apparently to rescue the disabled Taiwanese vessel, prompting MCS-3001 to disengage and leave.[16]  On May 17, investigators from Taiwan's National Bureau of Investigation said that there are signs that the Philippine Coast Guard may have violated their so-called rules of engagement.[17]  [按: 註17無用, 什麼叫做 rules of engagement?! 此段既為菲方主張, 就不該講台方主張 ]    待續.................

哇, 英文維基又被重寫了! 

The 2013 Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28 incident refers to a fatal event on 9 May 2013 involving the Taiwanese fishing boat Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28 and the Maritime Control Surveillance 3001, a Philippine Coast Guard vessel, which led to the shooting death of a Taiwanese fisherman.[1] The incident occurred in on the high seas where and the overlapping exclusive economic zones of between Taiwan and the Philippines overlap. Taiwan imposed sanctions and conducted a two-day military drill on the ground claiming that the the killing took place in its exclusive economic zone and was a violation of international law. A Philippine official stated that the firing was an action under the threat of being rammed.[2] The incident is still under separate investigation by Taiwanese and Philippine authorities: Taiwanese authorities have presented evidence of more than 50 bullet holes [3] Philippine authorities have started to examine a video tape recording. [4]

Incident

On 9 May 2013, the Taiwanese fishing boat Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28 (Chinese: 廣大興28號; pinyin: Guǎngdàxīng Èrshíbā Hào; Pe̍h-ōe-jī: Kóng-tāi-hing Jī-tsa̍p-peh Hō) was operating about 164 nautical miles southeast of Cape Eluanbi, Taiwan.[5] The vessel was captained by Captain Hung Yu-chih (洪育智); other crew members on board included the captain's father, Hung Shih-cheng (洪石成), the captain's brother-in-law, and an Indonesian national.

The Filipino Maritime Control Surveillance 3001 (MCS-3001), a 35-meter vessel jointly manned by the Philippine Coast Guard and Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources personnel, detected two fishing boats Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28 at 43 nautical miles east of Balintang Island,[6][7] a disputed area between Taiwan and the Philippines. The Philippine Coast Guard opened fire on at the fishing boat during a 50-minute chase into Taiwanese waters, that ended around 10:00 in the morning. Fifty-nine bullet holes (45 of which were entry holes) were found on the vessel and the slugs were identified as coming from a semi-automatic rifle. The vessel suffered significant damage, including engine failure[8], while the main deck experienced severe and concentrated attack, according to the distribution of the bullet holes.[9]

Location

The incident occurred in on the high seas and the overlapping exclusive economic zones zone between Taiwan and the Philippines. The site was 43 nautical miles east of Balintang Island according to the Philippine Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources[10] and 170 nautical miles south of Taiwan according to Taiwan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, both well within the 200 nautical mile range prescribed by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.[11]

Death of Hung Shih-cheng

The Coast Guard Administration of Taiwan dispatched the 2,000-ton ROCCGC Tainan (CG-126) to the rescue of the stricken vessel and escorted it back to its home port. Two Taiwanese fishing vessels assisted in the effort to tow the Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28 back to Taiwan under the escort of the CGA. The incident led to the death Taiwanese national Hung Shih-cheng (洪石成), who was 65.  [這段要改!  最後一句顯得洪石成之死起因於本段第一句與第二句, 怎麼這樣寫文章呢?  洪石成之死的要點是廣大興與MCS-3001的encounter, 要寫菲國子彈貫穿頸動脈, 半小時即一命嗚呼]

The President of the Philippines, Benigno Aquino III, sent his personal representative to make an unofficial apology for the death of the Taiwanese fisherman on 15 May 2013, dispatching the chairman of the Manila Economic and Cultural Office, Amadeo R. Perez, to Taipei, Taiwan as his personal representative.[12] However, Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou rejected the apology since it called the shooting "unfortunate" and "unintentional",[13] insisting that Manila offer a formal apology and just compensation.[12] The Philippines publicly welcomed a joint investigation with Taiwanese investigators on the incident in the first place,[14] but later denied that it had ever made such an offer and rejected the joint investigation when the Taiwanese investigators arrived in Manila.[15] Justice Secretary Leila de Lima stated that she would allow Taiwan to conduct an investigation "parallel to" that being conducted by the Philippine National Bureau of Investigation.[16] [這是台方或菲方加入的?  客觀來說, a parallel investigation 很合理, 此句有利於菲方.]

Claims and investigations

 Taiwan

The victim's son, Hung Yu-chih (洪育智), refuted the Philippine Coast Guard's claim, stating that the 15-ton Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28 had a much lower speed compared to the 90-ton PCG vessel. He said their immediate reaction was to flee when the fishing boat encountered the armed Filipino vessel and allegations that the fishing boat had tried to ram the PCG vessel was self-serving and baseless.[17]

Taiwan's Ministry of Justice published an investigation report on May 15,[18] indicating that 45 bullets hit the boat and that no signs of a collision were found on the boat, refuting the Philippine's claim that the Taiwanese boat had rammed the Filipino vessel.[19] The report further states that there were total of 59 bullet holes with at least one under the waterline and four near the cabin where the crew was hiding, inferring that the PCG intended to kill the crew. According to the voyage data recorder, the shooting occurred at 19°59'47.27"N and 122°55'41.37"W, which is outside the Philippines' territorial waters, but within the shared EEZ.

 Philippines

On May 10, Philippine Coast Guard Commandant Rear Admiral Rodolfo Isorena stated that the Taiwanese fishing boat together with another vessel were halted by the crew of MCS-3001 for an on-board inspection. The smaller of the two Taiwanese fishing boats did not respond to the warning and tried to ram the Philippine Coast Guard vessel. The commanding officer of MCS-3001 then gave the order to open fire at Guang Ta Hsin-28 to disable its engine. Two unidentified vessels then arrived in the area, apparently to rescue the disabled Taiwanese vessel, prompting MCS-3001 to disengage and leave.[20]

On May 17, investigators from the Taiwan National Bureau of Investigation said that there are signs that the Philippine Coast Guard may have violated their so-called rules of engagement.[16]

Public reaction in Taiwan

A protest by 200 Taiwanese outside the Manila Economic and Cultural Office in Taipei was held condemning the Philippine government and sympathizing with the dead fisherman. They also burned Philippine flags as part of the protests.[21] Taiwanese President Ma Ying-jeou urged the Taiwanese people not to vent their anger on Filipinos working in Taiwan and stated that the Philippine government should be held responsible. He insisted that like their Taiwanese fishermen, the Filipino migrant workers are making a living in Taiwan.[22] Ma also suggested that a fishery agreement will help solve its maritime dispute with the Philippines[23]  [特別寫此段, 目的為何?  想強調台灣人民拿菲勞洩憤?  居然需要馬總統出面制止?  根本沒有此事!  菲勞買不到便當乃子虛烏有.]

Rights groups in Taiwan also echoed the President's call to the Taiwanese people to refrain from targeting Filipinos in Taiwan. TransAsia Sisterhood Taiwan executive secretary Ly Vuoch, a Cambodian immigrant in Taiwan also insisted that not only Filipinos feel threatened when walking in the streets following the incident, but also other immigrants from Southeast Asia. Chen Hsiu-lien, policy researcher from the Taiwan International Workers’ Association, said that it is not right for the Taiwanese to vent their anger towards the Philippine government on Filipino migrant workers. Chen also claimed that President Ma is encouraging people to vent their anger on Filipino workers and insisted that "he would not have waited until now to ask people not to do so."[24]  [看不下去了!  簡直把台灣人民寫成洩憤的暴民.  小肉球住在台灣, 根本子虛烏有!  有些東西不必寫, 台灣有很多鄉愿及偽善者, 每每喜歡出來表示自己多注重人權.  這兩段沒寫出台灣人民的義憤, 只寫出台灣人民的不理性, 而最重要的是台灣人民並沒有拿菲勞出氣, 一起案件也沒有. 你們自己去看民進黨的Taipei Times, 那些所謂人權組織並非因為發生攻擊菲勞而出來呼籲, 只不過亮相機會來了而已, 他們在呼籲一樁根本未曾發生的事.]

Public reaction in the Philippines

Amid reports of OFW abuse in Taiwan regarding the incident, former policeman Abner Afuang burned the Taiwanese flag in protest and urged the Taiwanese to "show some respect". Contingency measures were being aranged for OFW's in case the situation escalates according to Undersecretary Abigail Valte, deputy presidential spokesperson.[25] [這段太可怕了, 台灣人民在廣大興事件後虐待菲勞了嗎, 還有新聞報導嗎?]

International law expert Harry Roque stated that Taiwan is not a recognized sovereign body, hence has no right to force the Philippines into signing a fishing agreement. Under International Law, however, Taiwan is entitled to compensation and an apology which should not be made by any higher ranking Philippine official other than the Manila Economic and Cultural Office representative.[26]

Reactions by governments

 Philippines

Deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte said the ramming by a Taiwanese boat in Philippine territorial waters as “an aggressive act.”[20] The Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) spokesman Commander Armand Balilo claimed the Filipino personnel had been properly carrying out their duties. If somebody died, they deserve sympathy but not an apology.[27]

PCG Commandant Admiral Rodolfo Isorena vowed a thorough investigation into the incident and has already relieved 11 PCG personnel.[28]

On May 15, President Benigno Aquino III assigned Manila Economic and Cultural Office (MECO) chairman Amadeo R. Perez, Jr. to be his personal representative to convey "his and the Filipino people’s deep regret and apology to the family".[29] When asked if this is an apology on behalf of the Philippine government, the presidential spokesperson Edwin Lacierda replied: "You take my statement as it is." [30] Aquino also tasked the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) to conduct a probe on the incident however rejected to investigate the incident with the Taiwanese government. Presidential spokesperson Edwin Lacierda also added that the video of the shooting incident will also be part of the investigation.[31]

 Taiwan

May 9, 2013, on the day of incident, the Republic of China (Taiwan) Ministry of Foreign Affair expressed the concern to the government of the Philippines and urge them to investigate and bring the murder to justice.[32] The ROC government issued a formal condemnation to the unjustified act by the Filipino officials on May 11. President Ma Ying-jeou subsequently demanded the Filipino government to response to these four solemn requests within the next 72 hours:

  • Issue a formal apology
  • Speed up of the investigation into the fisherman's death, and punish the perpetrators
  • Compensate the deceased fisherman's family
  • Start talks over fishing rights in the overlapped EEZ area.[33]

The ROC government urged the Filipino government to act upon these requests without delay, or the Filipino representative would be sent back to Manila.[34]

On May 12, Taiwan sent additional three Coast Guard cutters and one Navy warship carrying a S70-C helicopter to safeguard the Taiwanese fishing boats within its southern EEZ waters, and ignoring the Filipino EEZ claim.[35] Next day, on May 15, one hour passed the 72-hour deadline, Minister of Foreign Affairs David Lin termed the Philippines' response as ambiguous and needed more "clarity," and was not at all satisfied with the Filipino responses to the four requests.[36] With the deterioration of the diplomatic relations between both sides, Premier Jiang Yi-huah issued several sanctions to the Filipino authorities,[37] and authorized a naval exercise which involved Kidd-class DDG ROCS Ma Kong, La Fayette-class FFG ROCS Chen De carrying one S-70C, Mirage 2000-5 and F-CK-1 IDF fighters, E-2 early-warning aircraft, as well as Coast Guard cutters at the overlapped EEZ area on the next day.[38] In the meantime, Minister of Foreign Affiars Lin Yongle issued a "Red Alert" traveling status to the Philippines, strongly discouraged any Taiwanese from traveling to the Philippines, signifying boycotting of tourism to the Philippines for political purposes, such as Boracay and other scenic spots.[39]

Other authorities

  •  China – China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokeswoman Hua Chunying, strongly condemns the Philippines' "barbaric" shooting of the Taiwanese fishing boat and strongly urged the Philippines to "investigate the case immediately and handle the issue properly"[40] The Sino-Filipino diplomatic dispute has been deteriorated again after the Scarborough Shoal dispute and the Manila hostage crisisin 2010, which resulted in 8 deaths of Hong Kong tourists.
  •  United States - United States Department of State spokesperson Patrick Ventrell says the USA welcomes Philippines' pledge to conduct a full and transparent investigation, also urging all parties to ensure maritime safety and to refrain from "actions that could escalate tensions in the region and undermine the prospects for a diplomatic or other peaceful resolution of differences".[41] Later, the Chairman Steve Chabot and raking member Faleomavaega of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific made a joint statement indicating that this attack happened "in waters considered by both Taiwan and the Philippines to be within Taiwan’s 200 nautical-mile-from-shore Exclusive Economic Zone." Further, it states that "A government vessel’s shooting of an unarmed fishing boat is an act of violence, and is in violation of international law. Therefore, we call upon the Philippines to promptly and sincerely respond to the requests of the Taiwan government to apologize, punish the perpetrators, and provide proper compensation to the victim’s family based on humanitarian grounds." [42]

歐巴馬白宮請願有關為台灣漁民討公道的網址,請大家迅速傳出去連署。 過了門檻就能要求白宫履行,採取行動。現已有76000多簽名。 要在6月14日(美國時間)超過十萬名有效連署才成。

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/provide-necessary-assistance-prevent-taiwanese-people-being-murdered-philippines-and-rebuild/NYw8cM4k#thank-you=p

僑胞應不少。請為死去的漁民及辛苦在海洋護漁的海巡海軍做點事吧!   

* 反駁抱美國人大腿 

SJW兄在其之乎者也部落格撰文 中華民國立委號召台灣的民眾當「美國人」? -, 他說的乍看有理, 再思沒有理.  小肉球回應之:

盧秀燕號召的呀 2013/05/20 18:47

小肉球不知道是盧秀燕號召的, 不過, 從她號召連署, 就跳躍到她號召台灣人去當美國人, 未免跳躍得太厲害了.

(1) 白宮這種請願設置, 目前並不止於美國人, 非美國人也藉由它表達自己的意見.

(2) 這是台灣人民向美國白宮表達台灣人民沛然不可禦之民意, 暨向美國白宮陳述台菲爭議海域某事件之真相.

(3) 《美菲協防條約》第四條 "任一方皆承認:對任一方太平洋區域之武裝攻擊,將危及另一方自身和平與安全;任一方並聲明將基於各自憲法之程序應付此共同危險", 第五條 "為第四條之目的,對任一方之武裝攻擊視為包括對於任一方國內領土,或對於其管轄下之太平洋島嶼領土之武裝攻擊,以及對於在太平洋之武裝軍隊、公用船舶與飛行器之武裝攻擊"。

(4) 此舉之目的在提醒美國了解台灣民意所在, 勿在台菲廣大興28號爭執中傷害到美國的國家利益, 曲解《美菲協防條約》而失去台灣這另位更重要的盟友, 更勿忽視國際公理正義.

結論: 此呼籲OK, 為日後台菲可能之漁業爭議及海巡對峙打預防針, 並不等於去抱美國大腿, 或想變成美國公民.

AMEN!

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維基百科重新開放編輯
2013/05/30 12:27
現在維基百科重新開放編輯,但許多菲匪, 如果時間允許我會盡量
小肉球(meatball2) 於 2013-05-31 02:32 回覆:

現在局勢對我方有利, 台灣記者去菲國看到錄影帶, MCS-3001 離廣大興28好遠, 根本沒衝撞情事, 並且他們沒鳴槍示警, 船上九人有八人開火!

前天早上, 哪個混帳媒體亂放消息, 說菲國來台檢查廣大興, 檢查出擦撞痕跡, 害得政府必須立刻出來澄清.


雁~《龍年成語選輯》
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期盼民進黨能早一點「長大成熟」~不要老是扯後腿。
2013/05/30 02:49

咱們民進黨所以惹人怨,就是「唯恐天下不亂」心態! Fox三條線

真擔心~「萬一」民進黨重掌執政,會捅出什麼亂子?

期盼民進黨能早一點「長大成熟」~不要老是扯後腿。 Fox想

小肉球(meatball2) 於 2013-05-30 07:46 回覆:

蔡英文打2012總統選戰, 勤跑菲律賓, 和菲國朝野交衲, 他們民進黨成立 "小英之友在菲後援會",  這次出來在立法院開記者會的 "台菲友好協會", 召集人也是世新大學的, 首先在網路發表便當文的記者也是世新大學的, 天曉得有沒有關聯.

被菲律賓引述的台北時報, 是民進黨的英文 "黨報", 綠的一塌胡塗.


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建立一個帳號後就可以進行修訂-----但要有依據!!
2013/05/22 23:07

維基百科是一個在線百科全書任何人都可以編輯創建新的條目,目的是對所有的人者提供免費的百科全書信息。

這個信念很好----前一段時間維基百科講桃園劉邦友命案的嫌疑人是和"吳伯雄家族"有關,桃園縣長揚言提告----告誰啊!!   如果讀者認為寫的不對,就自己加入修訂嘛!!

有一篇"維基百科(Wikipedia)的孕育,誕生,成長及未來"----可以讀一讀,唯一敢擔保的就是"肚子不會痛的"!!


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小肉球(meatball2) 於 2013-05-23 10:55 回覆:

俺明白維基百科的由來及運作.

感謝您提供連結, 敦請愛台網友去和菲方戰鬥.


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拒賣菲勞便當 PO文董女者:聽來的
2013/05/21 23:07

唯恐天下不亂. 妳又是從哪聽來的呢? 已嚴重傷害國家形象 

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拒賣菲勞便當 PO文董女者:聽來的

http://udn.com/NEWS/NATIONAL/NATS4/7912183.shtml

網路流傳「拒賣菲勞便當」一文引發民眾討論,有菲律賓媒體也以此延伸菲勞疑在台受到不平等待遇;刑事警察局為釐清真相,今天約談寫下「親身經歷」的董姓女子,而董姓女子接受電視媒體訪問時表示,拒賣菲勞便當的內容是在便當店聽來的;她為此事造成社會這麼大的影響感到很抱歉。

董姓女子表示,這次事件讓她的壓力一直很大,希望能趕快平息。(comment:如果追不到源頭,哪妳就是編故事的源頭. 抓起來,法辦! )

 


小肉球(meatball2) 於 2013-05-22 02:31 回覆:

真是太可惡了!  就是這些人拿磚頭砸台灣的腳! 

(1) 明明無風 -- 台灣人並沒有因為廣大興事件虐待菲勞 -- 這些人卻無風起浪, 編出菲勞餓肚子買不到便當的事.  編造人: 網民Grace Tung 和立報鄭姓記者, 四方報的角色俺還沒弄懂.

(2) 然後網路名人九把刀不知道是否推波助瀾, 他的角色俺也還沒搞懂.

(3) 台灣那些小人權團體本來平日不甘寂寞, 巴不得揀到媒體曝光機會, 跑出來鬼叫一番, 民進黨的 Taipei Times 素來和它們互通聲息, 便大肆報導.

(4) 英文維基百科的廣大興事件條目就這麼寫下去了, 整個條目的一大部分都在講台灣人民拿在台菲勞洩憤, 不但嚴重破壞台灣形象, 並且成功轉移廣大興事件的焦點.

(5) 此條目引的是 Taipei Times, 它有憑有據, 要推翻它不容易, 咱們怎麼去向維基老編解釋?  這憑據造假?  台灣裡面的自己人造假?  -- 很難推翻啦!   


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哈囉
2013/05/21 05:02

您文章太深奧

所以只能推薦囉!


小肉球(meatball2) 於 2013-05-21 06:56 回覆:

謝謝 lavagau 兄推文. 

台灣網友動起來!  英文維基百科的廣大興28號事件條目被菲國人寫得一塌胡塗, 對台灣不利!  怎麼花恁多篇幅抹黑台灣?  廣大興事件並沒有引起任何台灣人虐待菲勞的事件, 怎麼寫成這樣!  氣死小肉球了! 


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現在是時候,硬撅撅,叫我們如何下嚥?
2013/05/20 16:48

現在是時候,硬撅撅,叫我們如何下嚥?

有真相,證據 圖片說服力強大,一張圖可以抵萬字

UDN也有文學海盜,藏頭客,見不得人的蒙面客,扮豬吃老虎(喻用心機耍詐),嫁禍於人,造謠,誣陷,撰偽,傳虛,腥羶,曖昧,亂搞,厚黑當道,出言不遜、張口搞亂罵人,野蠻攻擊,such as 人生如雞

怎可讓他們硬弩強弓,黃鷹劣犬,網扣鎗鉤,硬是要不得

野蠻全靠瞎掰硬坳的話很快就會露餡.

小肉球(meatball2) 於 2013-05-21 01:49 回覆:

遇事莫急, 像菲國事, 到了台灣和它算總帳的時候, 司法調查絕對查不出端倪, 菲國也不容易讓步, 那麼 (1) 馬政府持續在事發附近護漁, 對待菲船要強硬; (2) 馬政府挾台灣民意持續向美國施壓 -- 美國想失去台灣這個盟友嗎.

至於udn不肖份子, 以不變對萬變, 路遙知馬力, 日久見人心, 邪不勝正, 以行為證明諸邪不侵.


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真是...
2013/05/20 09:46
難得的同仇敵愾...
小肉球(meatball2) 於 2013-05-20 11:04 回覆:
台灣要爭氣!  這次是好事, 大有可為, 不要不了了之, 台灣人民要持續憤怒下去, 台灣政府要持續堅持下去, 然後, 台菲關係才能進入一個新的領域.

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哇,超過100000個簽名了!
2013/05/20 00:20

哇,短短不到24小時,小肉球婆婆的粉絲已經完成婆婆的呼籲了!

101,748


小肉球(meatball2) 於 2013-05-20 00:34 回覆:

唉, 不是小肉球啦, 俺是幫別的網友轉貼一下啦. 

不過, 蔡老大呀, 已經被格友罵了 (雖然沒指名道姓), 說這種連署和呼籲是在抱美國大腿.

小肉球不認為在抱美國大腿, 俺認為我們在和菲律賓打國際宣傳戰.  菲律賓並不是美國的傀儡國, 如同日本並不是美國的傀儡國, 美國和兩國都簽有協防條約.  菲律賓是一個很沒有骨氣的國家, 比起日本來, 它會比較聽美國的話. 

淡大美研所教授陳一新講過一句話, 小肉球覺得很有道理, 他說: 廣大興事件最後的決戰場不是在台北, 也不是在馬尼拉, 是在華盛頓

身為台灣的網民, 咱們盡一點心力, 阻止菲律賓 (他們講英文) 攻陷英文維基百科, 讓白宮聽到台灣的聲音, 怎麼等於抱美國大腿呢?


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菲律賓紙包不住火啦~
2013/05/19 03:23

雖然台灣因為溫良恭儉讓太客氣而輸了上半場...不過只要菲律賓遲遲未提供有力實證而全靠瞎掰硬坳的話很快就會漏餡喔~ 大笑

菲律賓政府以說謊玩兩面手法這樣也太累了吧~ 背後寫劇本的狗頭軍師應該很快會過勞而......守口如瓶


小肉球(meatball2) 於 2013-05-19 04:10 回覆:

這不是比賽, 沒有所謂 "輸了上半場". 

我們台灣為了討回公道, 我們已經吃虧, 廣大興被打成馬蜂窩, 一名中華民國國民被打死.

碰到不講理的國家, 要不就打仗討回公道, 要不就使用經濟制裁.

兩者均不可行, 前者是不可, 後者是沒用, 那麼, 就只剩下在經濟海域嚴格執法了!


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各國人民,各為其主;或者她基於義憤,加上買便當時又等太久〈下班人多時〉,難免借題發揮。
2013/05/19 03:15

菲勞買不到便當,發布人董女昨天已經辭職~董女可能是菲裔華人?咱們不需太在意而為難人家。

住家附近多外傭。我前天中午買便當剛好人多,老板忘了排隊順序先給外傭〈看不出那個國家〉,自己就多等十分鐘,也沒有什麼困擾。

各國人民,各為其主;或者她基於義憤,加上買便當時又等太久〈下班人多時〉,難免借題發揮。

只是並非事實則不宜傳布,那樣對緩和台菲衝突沒幫助。
菲國人民有一點值得學習:政府再怎麼不好,也要挺他。

咱台灣人相反,政府反應慢或遇景氣差,馬上翻臉反對。
所以台灣與菲律賓的滿意度民調,基礎不同致結果迥異。

小肉球(meatball2) 於 2013-05-19 04:03 回覆:
小肉球住家附近菲傭很多, 沒有任何人仇視, 和以往一樣.  "菲勞買不到便當" 太誇張了, 網路總有人寫一堆怪文章, 不能盡信啦!
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