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如果大陸硬收台灣,日人會如何反應
2008/10/08 12:26:14瀏覽685|回應0|推薦1

Fair,你看老日和我所知是一樣的。美國人態度比較不明朗,極右派有小小可能利用台獨打大陸賴帳,美國在大陸的投資和國債相比是太微不足道了。相反的,日本和歐洲在繁榮的中國推持下,對他們走出衰退的幫助很大。今後兩年是台灣的轉捩點,我們在美國的公民要發揮力量,督促議員扯住極右盲動份子。如果這次民主黨大贏總統、議會選舉的話,台獨將永不再為台灣之患了。經濟衰退愈深,民主黨大勝的可能愈高,台獨、反中泡沫化的可能也愈高,台獨却對衰退非常亢奮,真是一群不知棺材長相如何的笨蛋,令人一掬同情之淚。

2008-10-09 18:24 Jack

Continuing from my last response to Jack
about "也請談談你看中日台的前景,如果大陸硬收台灣,一般日人會如何反應。"
I can only express my view from business perspective.
Since I had dealt with business men in charge of International Trading
I felt at that time that those big trading houses like Marubeni Itochu
Itomia Mitsubishi, they all had forward planning in getting a lion's
share in China market 20 years ago. At time of this moment, they
all have already established strong hold in the big cities. If you
Google it the assets Japanese invested during those 20 years period
it would be astonishing far overtaking the asset owned by American.
This covers broad area you name it. Taiwan during
this period has invested with small chicken share.If put all 中日台
national strength on the scale, 台 is considered no body comparable
to U.S. China and Japan. Therefore,from big picture point of view,
台 must weigh in with its own capacity what 台 can benefit from
the quarto relationship. The noise of ID must phase out in matter
of years. Or 台 will not survive in the international competition.
I don't think at this time that Japan would care about 台 in time of
war between the Taiwan strait nor would American sacrifice their
own people's lives to safe guard 台. In fact 台 does not have chip
at moment to tip over the scale of international power play.
Life is cruel and so is international politics. I watch NHK every
day and I am feeling that that the NHK spend so much air time in
introducing China with so much frequency there is reason in it.
They represent the world trend toward that direction and if you
can not stop it you better take the train before its too late.

2008-10-09 10:34 fair

Fair, 首先我要澄清我泛指的「日人」,我知道一億多日本人中的大多數在任何社會標準中都是正派、本分、有禮、自制的好公民,但是這些人的種族優越感比東方人和西方人普遍要強烈。他們壞的民衆比別的社會中壞份子更暴烈、更邪惡,岐視心態比電影中納粹黑衫隊更強烈,他們不但對黃膚外國人視如豬狗,任意打駡(如此格綠沮兒),對同為日本人的殘廢智障人,也是公然打駡的。我有位交往三年的日本女友,那時我常去新宿出差,每次都和她父母同住、同吃,相處很好,她父親是早稻田畢業的中級經理人,水準很好。由他和自己接觸的市井小民,這是我對日本人八+年代初期的片面認識。

你和日本夫人結褵43年,又呆在日本18年,相信對日本人一定有更深刻的了解。你覺得一般日本人誠心接受你嗎?他們誠心接受你的孩子嗎?一般中下日人是怎麽看待台灣人和大陸人的?也請談談你看中日台的前景,如果大陸硬收台灣,一般日人會如何反應。謝謝。

Fair,謝謝回文,你的看法和我差不多。日本精英階層還可以,廣大的中下階層就是另一回事了。日本人是很有野心的,他們很小心的培育了很大規模的士官群,他們隨時可擴軍三百萬。你下次去日本時,可去橫須賀附近轉一轉,那些地下商場、酒吧、浴場附近的士官是日本社會的骨幹,不知現在是不是仍很跋扈?

美國人對中國和中國人是分開看的,我的經驗是他們當大陸人和台灣人是中國人,看法差不多,起碼在雇用和升遷上是差不多。在美國公司中,感覺上比日本人佔點優勢。同事中有個日本人,很善良、本份、敏感,每年「珍珠港事變」那天,他都一定不上班的。第二天早上一定會賊兮兮的跑來問我:「昨天有沒有人找我?問我?你知道我的意思嘛。」再賊笑一陣。

2008-10-09 08:35 Jack
2008-10-09 04:21 Jack 

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After read "J" blog response, I can't help express my view with regard
to Japanese national mentalities.
1. Japanese is a proud nation. They had never experienced defeats
before surrender to the Allies in WW ll. Yet deep from their heart
Japanese only admitted that they were defeated by American not
Russia and Chinese.
2. This mentalities expands their attitude and behavior toward other
nationalities. That is what you got general impression in Taiwan
and China.
3. We can't deny the good quality of the Japanese National, industrious
dedicated to their work & patriotic to their nation. They do have their
own deficiencies such as selfishness lack of sympathy place their
dedication to their work before family. That is, IMHO , not
recommendable & desirable from humanity point of view.In another
words, Japanese in general does not have great heart.
4. In my 18 years working experience in Japan and 43 years married
to my Japanese wife, I can tell you this. They tend to retreat
themselves when you talk to them in English. Is it some kind of
complex of inferiority after war? I do not know. They do tend to
show off their English in public when chances raise its self.
Therefore, it is easy to conclude the business deal in English other
than other languages.
5. ..."這些人是赴台嫖妓的主力部隊,他們在日本社會中久經壓抑,
在台一爽,又嫌台灣人髒蠢,常常就口沒遮攔的駡台灣人是...
I do not know how much truth about the result of 駡台灣人是
??? being inherited from those Japanese. However, bad mouthing is the
result of education. Some times, if not all the time, we must blame on
our self. Taking family member for instances, my wife & 2 Jr's, were
cheated by con artists and suffered financial loses from Taiwan and
China. Would they have good impression toward both Chinese and
Taiwanese? You tell me.
6. There is much room to be desired from MPOV toward Chinese
and Taiwanese. Yet from the value and quality between the two the
later has much to catch up with former. Just my 2 cents.
I am not hiding my feeling in front of my family and not afraid of
telling it to this blog.
Ask your self, before you challenge my view that you have negative POV.

2008-10-08 12:13 fair
Jack,
Thanks for taking time to give me response.
In our usual coffee gathering in the morning with Bob, a computer
chief engineer and Jim, a retired Berkeley Prof. we talked about
Japanese and Chinese. Both praised a lot on Japanese good point like
you mentioned. To Chinese their view are for most of time negative
particularly toward human right pollution to the global  environment and
the government undemocratic system. There is no way I can change
their view and it might take a hundred years.
As for my  experience in Japan, it was very difficult for a new business
man to penetrate into their set-up and deep rooted conservative system.
They do not trust outsiders. In addition to business, the education system
were well controlled by the patriotic technical bureaucrat with emphasis on
loyalty patriotism in a way to rebuild their national confidence after War ll.
My daughter was even mistreated by the narrow-minded school teacher
out of discrimination against Chinese. It is a close  narrow minded society.
To tell you frankly, my early application for Japanese citizenship was
turned down by immigration officer out of unpatriotic to Japan.
The Japanese well educated people are open minded and maintain good
attitude toward the outsiders but not those native burn and from lower
echelon. Those people followed the value & mentalities handed down from
Shogun  and Meiji Era. The family view their family honor as a matter of
course and that you have to attribute this conservative value as the pi vital
element of a stable society.
One story tells how successful they have had taught my daughter is that
when I criticized Japan Nanjing massacre killing 300,000 innocent people
daughter cried in protest. She accused me with wrong information and
fabricated the story. That prompted me to take her to have an American
trip to broaden her view and enlarge her view of  the world.
My another Jr. was brought up in U.S. After he attended the exhibition of
Nanjing massacre in Berkeley he told me that he believes that historical
incident actually happened and change his mother and sister's bias view.
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