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老師,這樣處理的方式,好嗎?(刊於論壇)
2011/01/25 22:33:20瀏覽2414|回應18|推薦54

老二今天回來時,拿一張數學考卷給我簽名,本來考卷家長簽名,是再正常不過的例行公事,但是這回簽名,我的感覺不是很好。

老二資質差,數學與英文兩個科目,對他而言更像無字天書,考個一、二十分是常見的事。平日老師考卷是直接發放,由同學登記分數,但是差別在這次的試卷不是由數學老師批改,而是將考卷交給A段班的學生批改,且要求每個A段學生批改後,須在考卷上寫些勉勵的話

老二的分數是12分(當然都是用猜的),考卷上留下的字語是「數學的訣竅,只有一個字──勤,題目要用心寫,錯了要用心訂正,這樣速度會變快喔!會越來越好!!」這位同學留下的字語,深具鼓勵作用,但在她的心中,考卷的主人是誰?資質如何?這樣的話語對他是否有效?她可能完全不清楚。

只是單純以A段學生的程度與角度,來看B段學生的分數,在A段學生的世界裡,很難想像有再怎麼努力都看不懂或不會算的學生,寫這些字語的學生,無疑是出自善意,但老師這樣的處置方式妥當嗎

教書這麼多年,第一次遇到老師把B段的數學試卷交給A段學生批改(社會科是選擇題,曾遇過,同班級交換批改,也看過),身為家長,對老師改試卷的方式覺得不是很恰當,但要具體說出不當之處,其實也說不上來,只是覺得有點怪怪的

(後記:在孩子的班級,數學科用猜的人數,不下十來位)

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換個角度看問題
2011/01/26 07:58
如果換個角度看問題,老師的做法未嘗不是一種實驗,讓批改與被批改的同學有全新的生活體驗,尤其在勉勵的做法上甚至可以做個統整發表,相信會有某種程度的鼓勵作用,也許孩子的感受可能與我們不同。
只是這種做法只適合當作短暫性與特殊性的嚐試,不宜習慣性進行。
平埔客(yuyunjai) 於 2011-01-26 08:36 回覆:

潭老的意見很好

要用這種方式

只能偶一為之

或特殊情況嘗試性的體驗

我比較贊成老師親自批改

老師自己批改

較了解學生常錯誤的是哪些題目

或者是同班級學生交換批改

可以了解別人錯誤的地方在何處

提醒自己遇到相同問題時

可以更小心



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老二資質差
2011/01/26 05:26

I hope you don't use 資質差 as the "reason" (or excuse, pardon my being frank) and then do not attempt to find out the real cause. 

Children that have difficulties with maths (especially essay question) is because they do not understand the question.  That is, they don't know how to turn the question into mathematical expression.  If you have the patient to explain them step by step, they will get it sooner or later.

For English, most oriental students have problem because of the lack of exposure, and they are lazy to memorize the spelling. English is the easiest foreign language, at least the grammar is not as complicable as Latin-based language. Do not force the child to memorize individual words, but to get him/her to have interest to read more - subjects that they are interested in.  When we read more, we will pick up those words eventually.  Don't force them to check up dictionary for every word. Tell them to just guess and skip.  Only check when they come across 3-4 times and still don't know then they should check it up.  Just keep the interest to read the story first. 

Language is something you can't grasp without over 20 years of continuous exposure.  As long as the interest and need is there, they will learn it.  Like me, my English marks were terrible in school, but I keep learning after I started working and here I am.  So tell your child, as long as he/she doesn't give up, he/she will be OK.

平埔客(yuyunjai) 於 2011-01-26 08:24 回覆:

孩子的資質不好

不是我自己說的

是有經過醫生評斷檢測過

孩子不是沒有努力

某些科目

對他而言是很抽象 

而英文在他的眼中

也似乎只有字母

沒有單字與句子文法的觀念



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And then for those students correcting the paper
2011/01/26 05:16

It's a good learning experience - learn from other's mistakes. They know why it is wrong, where it is wrong, and then when it comes to themselves, it's less likely they will make the same kind of mistake.

That teacher is really a good teacher.  He/she is not just teaching a subject, but teach students a method, a new perspective of life.



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What so embarrassed about that?
2011/01/26 05:12

將你子女的成績拿來說嘴取笑,情何以堪??

If that really happens, they should be proud of what they become, that they have overcome their difficulties, and they show to others that if you work hard, past records cannot be your obstacle in life.

Just don't understand how come you are so negative.  I always tell people my English was not good, I always got zero marks in school.  My English now is not excellent, but it's OK.  I tried my best and I am able to communicate without problem.  I don't feel shameful about my zero marks, not then, not now.

平埔客(yuyunjai) 於 2011-01-26 09:03 回覆:

我並沒有拿自己孩子的成績來說嘴取笑

只是說明在學校有這種狀況

到底好還是不好

可以讓為人師者省思

我既不怕外人知道自己的孩子

資質程度與成績差

何來說嘴取笑自己的孩子

您多心了



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Disagree
2011/01/26 05:07

Maybe not suitable for elementary students,  but for grade 5 and up, this is effective.

1. show to the student, this is not difficult for everybody.  If other can do it, you can.

2. sometimes, students themselves can put things right to the point, (like this one, maths is really depending on if you work hard enough to do the exercises, and then find out why by practice makes perfect.)

My English was never OK in class, but I was lucky to sit for the exam with our top student who briefly told me the way to write my composition and summary, which was simple and clear for me.  I followed the way and I got passed! Sometimes, student-to-student communication is better as they have common language, they are at the same level, and they probably understand what the problem may be from their own studying experience.


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是不妥
2011/01/26 00:35
我的小孩在小學時曾經遇過一個導師,她是讓學生交換改考卷,然後打分數,即使訂正別字也是由學生處理,甚至可以像老師一樣寫幾句話批評或鼓勵。

我當時認為,不過是個小學生,孩子們畢竟成熟度還不夠,哪能懂得錯誤的問題?甚至批閱的人幫忙訂正也常有錯誤,讓我不禁聯想,是否因為老師偷懶才出此方法,美其名是讓學生學習當小老師,偶一為之當然無妨,但是長期如此,老師便不容易了解每個孩子的學習狀況和訂正情形,讓我對此師作法產生極大的質疑。

平埔客(yuyunjai) 於 2011-01-26 09:06 回覆:

非常贊同您的觀點

如果批改者是老師

他充分了解學生的資質

批改完之後

給予適當字語的鼓勵

比較恰當


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不當之處,嗯~隱私權被侵犯
2011/01/26 00:00

雖說A段班不見得認識B段班,但是人生際遇豈能完全掌握,那天你的子女有成就了,卻被成就不高的A段班同學,將你子女的成績拿來說嘴取笑,情何以堪??

當然,這是比較嚴重的說法,通常一笑置之也就罷了,但若要較真來論,也只有是隱私權被侵犯如此而已,畢竟你的子女或是你不見得是什麼大人物,不值得用成績來做為取笑或打擊的工具,而A段班的同學想來也不會為了B段班同學的分數記憶如新,來做為將來人生道路上的舖陳才是。



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我覺得還好
2011/01/25 22:44

可能站在家長的立場,感覺被比較了,心裡不舒服。但是數學老師如此處裡還算好,總比不考試不批改試卷好。

事實上,數學科老師的辛苦在於每一題都必須親自改。但百忙中,老師真的能詳閱每一個算式嗎?

這個同學的鼓勵話寫的很好,數學就是要多家練習,是正向的鼓勵喲!同學的鼓勵說不定比家長的鼓勵更有效果。

平埔客(yuyunjai) 於 2011-01-26 09:12 回覆:

這位同學鼓勵的話

蠻中肯的

而且也是非常正確的教導孩子

數學提升的讀書方法

並無惡意

其實退一步想

也正如寧靜姐所言

不一定不好

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