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美國人的悲哀
2009/01/10 03:26:37瀏覽779|回應3|推薦9

當貪婪的白領銀行家(white-colared) 技巧包裝筆筆房貸信用卡債

全世界沉浸在金融地產"泡沫"浴 執迷於華爾街的威信

當95%的美國人(年收入250,000美金以下) 擔心他們的退休金 孩子的大學學費

荷包滿滿的華爾街總裁 正在杜拜(Dubai)開香檳慶新年

當歐巴馬即將入主白宮  眼看新政府要改頭換面

以色列點燃加薩炮火  要新政府明白誰當家 (who control the congress!)

國際安全組織14-0要求加薩停火

美國政府卻保持中立 不敢得罪"當家的"

美國不但失去獨領風騷的華爾街舞台

更悲慘得不敢伸張正義 發揮道德情操

美國人的悲哀在被牽著鼻子走

美國人的悲哀在不能說"Merry Christmas", but "Happy Holidays"

美國人的悲哀在中產階級的破產

美國人的悲哀在傳統宗教價值觀的瓦解

美國人的悲哀也是你我的哀傷

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Thomas Paine
2009/01/13 05:24

I agree with you. Most Taiwaneses, like most American, have been brianwashed by American corporate media for years without realizing the truth. American capitalism system has its innate flaw since it's profit-driven, that most people don't fully understand. If Thomas Paine were around, he would have a heart attack after seeing the poor democracy condition in the States.

powerful(tinaleong) 於 2009-01-13 06:12 回覆:
Thanks for your comment.  As refreshing and insightful as it is, it instantly up-lifts my spirit.  Being a first-time blogger, recently was accused of being simple-minded and racist by a fellow blogger,  I'm truly gratified by your sharing.

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2009/01/12 12:39
這個..你把一堆事攪在一起,有點麻煩,不過我試著回答看看。請指教。
(1)Yes I do deny. 金融機構才不要貸款給付不起房貸的人,他們又不是慈善機構。他們是被強迫,威脅,刀架在脖子上才只好做這些高風險放款。詳情在此。花旗銀行還因次貸放太少還被控違法,也被指責”歧視窮人”。你可錯怪了這些可憐的金融機構。
(2)美國的基本價值的確有鬆動,但我的看法與你不同。現在在美國變成大家什麼都要怪政府,什麼都跟政府要(其實台灣也差不多),有一句格言變成“不要問你為國家做了什麼,要問國家為你做了什麼“我在此有詳述
(3)政府預防:共和黨在2004年就要檢查擔保次貸的房地美/房利美財務,被民主黨拒絕還被罵。影片在此
(4)700B bailout:已經花了一半,剩下的一半還在吵要怎麼花。說來話長,估計半年到一年會看出一些效果。
(5)這次危機不是policy maker,而是民主黨的社區再投資法搞出來的。
(6)我對哪一黨均無特殊好惡,但我對政策有意見。我也希望大家都是這樣,就事論事。

任何投資都有風險,跟 ”華爾街貪婪”無關。買連動債的人也是貪心看以為好賺又穩才買的。自己風險評估錯,怨不得旁人。我股票跌了也是自己摸摸鼻子認賠。
powerful(tinaleong) 於 2009-01-12 15:07 回覆:

1.Warren Buffett, the richest man in America said, "Watch out those geeks with formulas."  Smart man like yourself should be able to realize to whom his finger was pointing.

2. This country has been losing it's christian values, which make it the greatest country in the world.  Of course, I don't expect you to agree with me on this.

3. You can always argue with that point.  Haven't we seen enough "back and forth" on the presidential debets?  The point is how effectively has the government reacted and prevented further chaotic fall?

4-6 It all goes down to the question again- who are the policy makers?  Not the congress, not the house, but the lobbyists, the special interest groups that ally for some  political characters with no integrity whom they can "lobby".  Do me a favor please.  Go look up  the only group  Paline was "allowed" to meet with after the GOP convention.

I also  had tons of loss on investment, but I worry more about social values collape.  That's why we have Madoff scandle and Citi chairman stepping down with 150 mill been paid to him over the years.  How about the hundreds and thousands people got laid-off and forclosed their houses? 

Anyway, I apologize with my poor chinese wordings; however, I still stand by with my generally sincere  concerns.  


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關於華爾街部份,不太同意
2009/01/10 14:01
罵華爾街,罵有錢人容易,這也是最近的風潮,可是這種簡單的指控通常都有點問題。

事實還是事實,這次風暴的根源不是華爾街,而是民主黨:卡特,克林頓,甚至歐巴馬都有份。小弟拙作問題不是資本主義有詳述與參考資料,有空來坐坐。


powerful(tinaleong) 於 2009-01-10 14:38 回覆:

You can't deny the fact that it was those Wall Street fancy financial structuring gave free pass to the risk takers who can't afford the housing but live on debts.  I wasn't conviently accusing the well-heeled, but simply pointing out the bankrupcy of the American fundamental values. 

The truth is the govenment failed to prevent the trainwreck.  Paulson and Bernanke didn't even have a clue what was going on and further delayed to correct it.  What happened to the 700 billion bailout plan? 

You're absolutely right, the capitalism didn't cause this crisis.  It was the policy-maker.  In fact, I don't like the democrats, but the republicans let the Jews "have their balls".  That's why I said it was the American tragedy!