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綠卡號碼=美國籍證明書號碼 馬英九不提供是在怕什麼?
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針對馬英九杯葛中選會查證是否具外國籍一事,民進黨長昌競選總部發言人群今(18)日召開「馬英九,你在怕什麼?」記者會。徐國勇指出,擁綠卡者申請入美國籍時,綠卡號碼就是美國入籍證明書的號碼,且馬英九之前所說都無法證明綠卡已失效;鄭文燦呼籲馬英九尊重法律、對人民忠誠,依法提供資料。

鄭文燦首先說明,依據總統副總統選舉罷免法規定「具有外國國籍者,不得登記為候選人」,且「經發現具有外國籍者,中選會必須在投票前撤銷其候選人資格,或在當選後依法提起當選無效之訴」。因此,這是個嚴肅的法律問題,現在不釐清,選後一定會引起不必要紛爭與社會成本。鄭文燦抨擊,馬英九昨日拒絕提供相關個人資料予中選會查證的反應相當不恰當,遮遮掩掩,是心虛表現。

徐國勇指出,美國在台協會新聞科科長已清楚說明,凡是申請任何一種美國移民服務的外國人,美國國土安全部都會給予一個永久的A開頭檔案編號,申請者取得綠卡時,此號碼就會變成綠卡號碼,而當歸入美國籍,此號碼也就會是入籍證明書的號碼。因此,徐國勇強調,既然「綠卡號碼就是國籍證明書號碼」,已承認有綠卡的馬英九,怎麼可以不提供號碼以玆查證,而只說20年前已經放棄,這是近乎耍賴的方式,損害國民知的權利。

徐國勇並指出,馬英九辯稱曾一年多沒有進入美國,已喪失綠卡資格,但是美國在台協會也已說明,如果構成「視為放棄永久居留權」的行為態樣,將構成失去永久居留權的「要件」,之後必須接受移民法庭裁決是否仍擁有美國居留權。因此,徐國勇強調,馬英九所說其實只是構成要件,而如果還沒有經過法庭裁決失效,綠卡當然就是有效。徐國勇也再次說明,綠卡失效只有兩條路,一是填寫I- 40 7表主動放棄,另一則是構成要件之後經移民法庭裁決失效。

蕭美琴說,她無法理解馬蕭競選總部為何要杯葛中選會的依法調查,為何不願意光明正大將自己的過去攤開由人民檢驗。她指出馬英九不僅有五個英文名字,且針對綠卡何時失效,競選總部前後也有不同版本,先是發言人說20多年前失效,後說至少在19901996年失效,接著又表示19921994之間沒有出國所以失效,但是馬英九又說印象中在1985年左右失效。蕭美琴質疑,中選會依法審查候選人資格,要透過綠卡來查證他是否有具外國籍,為何不願意提供細部資料,而對外語焉不詳的模糊回覆人民。

鄭文燦也提出疑問,馬英九在中華民國護照和綠卡所使用的英文名字是否一樣?他在綠卡上的英文名字是「Mark MA」,中華民國護照上的英文名字也是「Mark MA」嗎?且馬英九說大學時代後就不再使用「Mark」,顯然馬英九還有其他名字,而這些名字並不用向政府報備,若他沒有提供名字的完整使用紀錄,將何以查證馬英九是否擁有綠卡或是外國國籍。因此,鄭文燦呼籲,提供完整資料是查證的條件,馬英九不提供就是杯葛,呼籲他尊重法律、對人民忠誠,把事情攤在陽光下讓社會各界檢證。

謝欣霓表示,如果馬英九的綠卡真的失效,應該迫不及待提供綠卡號碼給中選會,讓中選會好好的查他有沒有美國國籍、綠卡是否有效,因為綠卡號碼就等於未來的國籍號碼,中選會可以依此儘快查明。謝欣霓強調,選前查明總比選後才發現當選人擁有其他國籍,再來打選舉無效官司來得省事,也減少政治紛爭,她呼籲馬蕭陣營如果要證明確實沒有第二、或第三外國國籍最快的方式就是提供綠卡號碼,這是全國人民,尤其是相信你們的人民的誠懇期待。

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取得「非移民簽證」,你的綠卡或美國護照 並不會「自動失效」!!
2008/02/22 05:14
誠信..請馬先生說明... 如何以誠信治國?

因為馬先生已說謊三次...

可能永遠也不會說真話.....

 

馬英九說他是拿「非移民簽證」到美國…所以綠卡(美國居民資格)「自動失效」…說謊又不打好草稿…無恥至極……

97.02.03 大話新聞有觀眾提供資料說:政府12職等以上官員赴美…不論「團體簽證」或「個人簽證」…均由其「秘書」彙整當事人證件送交「北美事務協調會」…「北美事務協調會」再轉「美國在台協會」辦理簽證…「美國在台協會」基於政府對政府關係…會核准其「非移民簽證」…不會因為你有綠卡(美國居民資格)或美國護照 (美國公民資格)…就不核發「非移民簽證」給你…因此取得「非移民簽證」…並「不代表」你的綠卡或美國護照「自動失效」…

在上述辦理簽證過程中,秘書當然不會問首長:你有無綠卡或美國護照?…而首長也不會笨到告訴秘書說:已持有綠卡或美國護照,可以直接赴美,不用辦「非移民簽證」……

馬英九漫天撒謊…欺騙全國同胞…無恥至極……

馬英九如果不參選總統…沒有人會去質疑他有沒有綠卡或外國護照……

綠卡或外國護照本身沒有對與錯…問題是要參選總統的人…須接受比一般人更嚴苛的標準與檢驗…包括誠信、能力、操守等等……

試想,一個船長自己穿好救生衣(如同綠卡、外國護照)…隨時準備棄船…你相信他能負責任的帶領乘客安全前往目地地嗎?…你放心將身家性命交給他…讓他來掌舵嗎?…

試想,法國總統如果擁有綠卡或美國護照,成何體統?…法國人民會接受他嗎?……

同理3月22日選出的總統如果擁有綠卡或美國護照…台灣人民你會接受嗎?……

馬英九1977年取得綠卡(美國居民資格)…1981年才回國…前後3~4年滯留美國是不是為了等候美國護照(美國公民資格)核發……

馬英九為何遲遲不敢拿出護照正本公開給社會大眾檢驗……

醜話說在前面…選前馬英九如果將綠卡或美國護照偷偷摸摸的申請報廢…必須將「何時報廢」公開給社會大眾…否則就是述拉、孬種…… ……


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怕什麼
2008/02/22 04:05
新版身分證算命~
新版身分證算命 ~不要玩喔請告知你的好友喔注意:
最近有不法集團利用一個算命程式! 進行身份證號碼收集 他們會叫你輸入號碼後算命,千萬不要玩 ,請通知你們的好友
 


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請督促馬英九承諾,若在綠卡事件說謊,即退出大選
2008/02/22 01:56

馬英九是厲害的人,可以使支持者忽然覺得有綠卡的人參選總統沒什麼。

我想如果馬英九先生被發現偷了別人五萬元,支持者也會覺得偷五萬元不是偷,要求修法改成偷十萬元以上才算偷竊,要不然就是會責備被偷的人自己不注意吧!

對立造成是非黑白混淆,希望謝先生可以跟馬英九先生共同宣示,不管大選結果如何,所屬政黨絕不惡意杯葛法案。

謝謝你把高雄火車站保留下來。


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臺灣的民主政治... 即將毀於馬英九 ......
2008/02/21 23:39
臺灣的民主政治... 即將毀於馬英九 ......

他以為自己是黃帝... 不必填資料... 就可以申請工作.....


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TAIWAN
2008/02/21 18:31
Also during his term, 8 years, Taiwan did not improve and prosper, while the rest of the world’s economy was improving and people were richer!!  I was extremely disappointed when earlier he kept talking about 228 and presidents Chiang!!  Honestly, WHO CARES ABOUT 228??  WHO CARES ABOUT (DEAD) Presidents chiang??   Those are the PAST, NOT the PRESENT!!   A-bian and DPP either had no idea what people really wanted (GOOD ECONOMY!!), or they were AVOIDING the REAL ISSUES (BAD ECONOMY!!)   I believe 99% of Taiwanese would agree with me that, having MONEY in our pockets is the MOST important issue that we care!! 


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TAIWAN
2008/02/21 18:30

.  Taiwan is my house, and china always wants to take away my house. It’s my home /house, if I let china take it away, where I’m going to live??

I’m gonna be a homeless??

I believe that if ma becomes a president, he wont give away Taiwan right away, but he’d start doing secret turn-over (give Taiwan to china) during his 3rd year, and if he get lucky and get re-elected, he’d temporary stop it. But during the 7th and 8th years, he’d quickly finished what he was trying to do (SELL and BETRAY Taiwan), and then either fly away and lived in China or the United States! And this, I’d HATE TO SEE!!!



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TAIWAN
2008/02/21 18:28

Please make sure that ALL TAIWANESE HEAR YOU AND YOUR PROMISESE!  Till now, I still have no idea what your plans for Taiwan are.  Yes they are on the websites, but are they on the news media 24/7??  NO!  People have no idea what you and DPP can give to people!  People are AFRAID that you are gonna be like A-bian. People don’t want to have another tough 8 years!!! 

 

You see what ma did?  He did try to focus on the ECONOMY issues and the news media run his news 24/7!  But  people are TIRED of DPP who only knows how to use their power to do the spy work and do the “dirty trick”!  You know what people really want??  GOOD LIFE!!! Stable economy!! STABLE Politics!!  People hate to see politician fight each other 24/7!!!



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TAIWAN
2008/02/21 18:28

I really don’t understand why there are so many people supporting mr. ma.  Why do they think that he would give them hope and promises? Why do they think that ma can make their lives better??

 

WHY those people don’t think you can do the same??  Because ma’s “Pretty”?? 

 

Honestly, ma is VERY UGLY!  Lets start from his face, he has bags below his eyes, lots of fine lines on his face, and lots of  “old people’s spot or liver spot” on his face too!!  He has big breasts (like a female!) and abdomen (FAT!) 

 

Unfortunately, people overlook these DEFECTS of ma, and believe what they want to believe. They think that as long as this person is Pretty, he has the ability to be a good president and make people’s lives better?!  People believe that prettier and taller people can do better than anyone else!



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TAIWAN
2008/02/21 18:27

During KMT era, of course mr. ma could do whatever he wanted!  He always worked for the government, so if he wanted to apply for HB1 visitor visa (even if he had green card already), AIT would still give it to him, because KMT ran the government!!   AIT would allow him to do that and cover up for him because KMT ran the government!  AIT would allow him to do that because MOST KMT rich people have other countries’ citizenship/passport, so it was a VERY COMMON thing (when it’s common, it becomes the NORM, and eventually LEGAL!)

 

I think many Taiwanese and media have double-standers. They tolerate ma and his family.  I believe that ma, his wife, and his daughters should all be examed!!  Just like the way they exam a-bian’s wife, his son, his daughter in law, and his grandchildren!!



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TAIWAN
2008/02/21 18:26
  1. Americans have NO DOUBT that their presidential candidates are 100% US BORN CITIZEN, 100% Faithful to the US, and have NO OTHER COUNTRIES’ “PERMANENT RESIDENT CARD” OR “PASSPORT.”  Issue like this will be a BIG SCANDAL!!  Unfortunately, Taiwanese are extremely NICE to mr. ma, they tolerate him and forgive him!!  I really don’t understand why!   So be VERY CAREFUL, if you fight him on this issue too much, the “middle” will turn to ma’s side, not yours!! 

 

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